EugEnE ([info]keeblerx) wrote,
@ 2009-01-20 13:27:00
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If nothing we do matters, than the only thing that matters is what we do.

from http://community.livejournal.com/antitheism/1196488.html

any ideas?

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[info]digaazthehated
2009-01-20 09:13 pm UTC (link)
You looking for like.... An example? Or... ... Hmmm..... Maybe:

You give a homeless dude a cheeseburger... It's not going to change that he is homeless, and no one is going to care that you did it. You will feel better knowing that what you did, was a good thing.

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[info]musicaltree
2009-01-20 10:52 pm UTC (link)
Concentration camps.
Eta Carinae.
Andromeda eating the Milky Way.

Smiling at people on the streets.



Those are ideas, albeit not well-formed.

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[info]keeblerx
2009-01-21 04:00 pm UTC (link)
smiling at people on the streets is a flawless example of how I view this idea.

You have infinite choices walking down the street. You could choose to kill yourself as soon as you step down off of your stoop in the morning. ..to make the walk with as little interference as possible. ..to take the scenic route.

or my personal favorite... Dance and Sing and Say hello to strangers until something amazing happens. If nothing does, count your blessings when you make it to work unhindered.

Concentration Camps, eh? This poses some interesting ideas.

From which angles? Soldier? General? Slave? President of the USA? Random person on the other side of the world?

the generic Judeo-Xtian point of view is that we need to stick our nose as far up in everyone's business as possible.. in the case of concentration camps, there is some merit.

if you are a person in the concentration camps (see La Vita Bella) then survival is a hope, and making yours and the lives around you better seems almost impossible. but try try and you might make it out alive

if you are a soldier, turning is not the brightest choice. building up your position... running away to tell other countries... these are all good choices.

The US has had concentration camps too. Germany just happened to be a force we lowered our guns on before the US started attacking indigenous and/or brown people again.

That's not to say what Germany did wasn't horrible and aweful.

Just some extrapolations from me just after I woke up.

oh, and the world ending means that we have to act as true to our own nature as possible, or else as altruistically as possible. I don't really care which.

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[info]musicaltree
2009-01-21 10:23 pm UTC (link)
Concentration camps from all points of view. Even just the concept of surviving in one. Or of dying in one.

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[info]charl33t
2009-01-21 02:48 am UTC (link)
I think the dude who wrote the original post in that community should accept that he's agnostic and not atheist.

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[info]keeblerx
2009-01-21 03:49 pm UTC (link)
several of us in that community are agnostic and various flavours of theists.

I don't know about him.

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Pascal's Wager
[info]sad1225
2009-01-21 12:47 pm UTC (link)
Pascal's Wager (or Pascal's Gambit) is a suggestion posed by the French philosopher Blaise Pascal that even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should "wager" as though God exists, because so living has everything to gain, and nothing to lose. It was set out in note 233 of his Pensées, a posthumously published collection of notes made by Pascal in his last years as he worked on a treatise on Christian apologetics.

Historically, Pascal's Wager was groundbreaking as it had charted new territory in probability theory, was one of the first attempts to make use of the concept of infinity, marked the first formal use of decision theory, and anticipated the future philosophies of pragmatism and voluntarism.[1]

http://tinyurl.com/5hfvt

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Re: Pascal's Wager
[info]keeblerx
2009-01-21 04:15 pm UTC (link)
while I like the ideas presented...

the problem then becomes *which* god should we assume exists? tee hee

otherwise, thanks man. I plan on reading up on this.

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Re: Pascal's Wager
[info]keeblerx
2009-01-21 04:17 pm UTC (link)
nvm, apparently, it's covered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager#Correct_god_is_worshipped

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